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Politics/Elections News Keywords: BREAKING
Source: MSNBC
Posted on 01/16/2001 11:04:44 PST by Timeout
MSNBC just put up a tag at the bottom of the screen that said "Lesion
on Clinon's back is skin cancer".
1 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:04:44 PST
by Timeout
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Woohoo!
2 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:05:24 PST
by VoodooEconomist
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I just realized there's another thread already up on this....go there./
3 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:06:16 PST
by Timeout
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To: Timeout
More likely an AIDS lesion.
4 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:06:43 PST
by elwoodp
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To: Timeout
They said they cleanly got it all when the excised the spot.
5 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:07:08 PST
by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Timeout
Silence Sodomy = Death
6 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:07:47 PST
by Cultural Jihad
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Ah yes, the Devil comes to collect his due.
7 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:09:21 PST
by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Timeout
I find it interesting that they're announcing this now so the Ashcroft
coverage is interrupted by news about Bill.
It's always about him. Bill Clinton all the time. Get the hook.
8 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:11:09 PST
by Cincinatus' Wife
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This is a relatively common form of skin cancer, 800,000 to 1 million cases
a year," Siewert said. "The lesion was removed, so while the
president, it can be said, had skin cancer, that has been removed and he no
longer has it."
9 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:11:55 PST
by Cagey
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To: Timeout
CLINTON HAS SKIN
CANCER!
GOOD!
10 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:13:10 PST
by Fiddlstix
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Don't you mean 'exorcised'?
11 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:13:24 PST
by redhead2
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To: Cagey
This is to differentiate his skin lesion from his lack of decency and
conscience, attributes that he never possessed.
12 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:14:05 PST
by ralph
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To: Timeout
Clinton IS a cancer!
13 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:14:37 PST
by deener
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To: Cagey
One qualifier: basal cell carcinoma, once it occurs, frequently re-occurs
(is that redundant?). And, it can develop into melanoma.
14 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:15:07 PST
by sinkspur
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Just get out of the Bushes house!
15 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:15:56 PST
by BeamMeUpScotty
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To: Timeout
Here is a funny thread started in extended news
16 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:22:22 PST by
Native American Female Vet
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To: Timeout
You should all be F@cking ashamed of yourselves. This thread has got
to go. You hate the man so much that you rejoice at his having cancer? You make
me sick.
FReepers should be praying that the man changes his heart before he goes to
face his Judge, a judge who will definitely not recuse Himself and who will
deliver a decisive, just verdict.
17 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:22:50 PST
by The Old Hoosier
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I'm not rejoicing, I just don't care. And spare us your outrage. How many
liberals have been on FR making fun of Reagan's Alzheimers? Hmmmm?
18 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:29:06 PST
by MOMinTN
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To: VoodooEconomist
Can this thread disappear? While I really despise the man, I do not wish for
his death via cancer. Nor should any of us.
19 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:29:21 PST
by Solson
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To: The Old Hoosier
Ive voluntarily recused myself 4-5 months ago from posting cause I always
got in trouble with the Freep crowd. NOt this time. Ask me how much pity I have
for this demon when I think of Chinese, Russian, or some other country he sold
nuclear secrets to just to keep his sorry crooked ass in office nuking my
family and watching the flesh fall from my childrens bodies. MAY HE ROT IN
HELL!!!!!!
20 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:32:08 PST
by Agent99
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To: The Old Hoosier
"Payback" is a MUTHER**$#
Now, Billy Boy will pay THE PRICE DUE for ALL the Damage *IT* has DONE
21 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:34:17 PST
by dishedd
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To: Solson
I would never wish for his death -- i would much rather he suffer in
unending pain and agony as his body rots inside and out.
22 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:34:31 PST
by commish
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To: sinkspur
Basal cell carcinomas are 95+% curable with surgical excision or radiation
(which is usually reserved for those on the face where the cosmetic result is
important). Even when incompletely excised, the recurrence rate is about
35-40%. Basal cell carcinomas do not convert into melanomas.
23 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:34:49 PST
by SC DOC
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To: Cagey
"The lesion was removed, so while the president, it can be said, had
skin cancer, that has been removed and he no longer has it."
Wish we could say the same about him.
24 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:36:46 PST
by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: commish
I don't want him dead; I want him before a judge.
25 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:36:46 PST
by AppyPappy
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Zackly
26 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:38:10 PST
by OWK
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To: The Old Hoosier
You should all be F@cking ashamed of yourselves. This thread has got to
go. You hate the man so much that you rejoice at his having cancer? You make me
sick.
Rejoicing? Hardly! I'm cursing the fact that the cancer didn't occur on his
bent penis and was so malignant it had spread to every vital organ in his
yellow, vile, traitorous, lying, raping, redneck, mass-murdering,
draft-dodging, cocaine-snorting, commie-coveting, corruption-covering,
scandal-ridden, bloated body! (And May God forgive my unabashed hatred of this
puss-ridden excuse for gnat cheese from an uncircumsized foreskin)
27 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:43:00 PST
by ironangel
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
January 20, 2001
The lesion was removed, so while the USA, it can be said, had a kind of
cancer for the last eight years, the leech has been removed and we no longer
have it."
I feel better now too :)
28 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:44:17 PST
by Cagey
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To: Timeout
Clinton had a small skin lesion removed. It's hardly the stuff of gravity.
If there were evidence of the disease more advanced, it could have been. It's
simply another attempt to make Clinton an empathetic figure. Soon it'll be said
that we can't prosecute a man with "this" disease. Get the barf
buckets ready my freinds. Ala Alan Cranston and Jim Guy Tucker, here's comes
the quivering lip squad.
As for Clinton having cancer, I don't think we elevate ourselves by wishing
that on anyone. We should certainly desire and expect jail terms for his
crimes, but God can and will provide any further justice when the time comes.
29 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:44:31 PST
by DoughtyOne
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To: SC DOC
Abstract
Chronic herpesvirus infections are common in patients infected with HIV.
Atypical skin lesions secondary to long-standing varicella-zoster virus (VZV)
infection have been reported. We present a case of an AIDS patient with a
chronic VZV infection that simulated a basal cell carcinoma. Histologic
examination and immunohistochemistry confirmed the presence of the virus in the
follicular epithelium. In the immunocompromised patient, biopsies should be
performed on all suspicious lesions because medically-treatable infections may
take on the appearance of malignancy.
Chronic Varicella Zoster Infection Mimicking a Basal Cell Carcinoma in an
AIDS Patient.
Tsao H; Tahan SR; Johnson RA J Am Acad Dermatol, 1997 May, 36:5 Pt 2, 831-3
Abstract
OBJECTIVE: To describe the types of skin cancer associated with the acquired
immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS). DESIGN: A literature review of AIDS-related
mucocutaneous neoplasms, including basal cell carcinoma, squamous cell
carcinoma, bowenoid papulosis and Bowen's disease, squamous cell carcinoma,
cloacogenic carcinoma, and malignant melanoma, is presented, and the incidence,
etiopathogenesis, clinicopathologic features, treatment, and prognosis are
discussed.
RESULTS: The association between cutaneous neoplasms and AIDS is well known.
Neoplasms seem to grow more rapidly and be more invasive in patients with AIDS
than in other groups of patients. Several oncogenic factors--for example,
sunlight exposure or human papillomavirus infection--have been associated with
the development of skin cancer in these patients. The morbidity and mortality
rates of skin cancer are higher in patients infected with the human
immunodeficiency virus (HIV) than in the general population. Early and complete
excision of the neoplasm is especially important.
CONCLUSION: A link exists between AIDS and the development of skin cancer.
HIV-infected patients should be followed up vigilantly for early diagnosis of
skin cancer. Because these patients are less able to suppress common cutaneous
malignant disease due to their immunocompromised status, biopsy specimens
should be obtained from all suspicious lesions, and histopathologic assessment
should be done.
Skin Cancers Associated with Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome.
Wang CY; Brodland DG; Su WP Mayo Clin Proc, 1995 Aug, 70:8, 766-72
Cordially,
30 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:44:32 PST
by Diamond
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To: Timeout
Well it's not polite or Christian to wish evil on anyone or anything, here's
Bill leading me into temptation again.
31 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:44:59 PST
by Joe Boucher (cold@gateway.net)
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To: The Old Hoosier
The man is scum. If he died today, the world would instantly be a better
place. Your sympathies would be better directed towards a worthy recipient. Not
some vile piece of dirt that would have you killed in an instant if it
benefited him politically.
32 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:45:52 PST
by wny
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To: commish
I would never wish for his death -- i would much rather he suffer in
unending pain and agony as his body rots inside and out.
Aids does that, doesn't it? Until he gets pneumonia and dies.
Don C.
33 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:46:02 PST
by 1stIowa
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I feel better now too :)
One last medical visit paid for by the American people.
34 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:46:43 PST
by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Timeout
MSNBC, Old news, Go here.
Doctors:
Suspicious cancerous lesion found on Clinton's back
I just heard on WABC News that it was an old lesion and had already been
removed. Just another manipulation of the press by Clinton, to get his face all
over the media before he leaves. He just can't stand it can he? he has to take
the lime light away from Bush. What a pig.
35 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:50:14 PST
by Teacup
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To: SC DOC
Basal cell carcinomas are 95+% curable with surgical excision or radiation
(which is usually reserved for those on the face where the
After years of biking, hiking, jogging and tanning I have had 5 removed and go
in tomorrow to have the stitches removed from the 5th ( right on the front of
my nose )
36 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:50:59 PST
by uncbob
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To: The Old Hoosier
C'mon, for God's sake do not get joy from someone getting cancer, even if it
is Slick.
If you want to know how bad cancer really is, I'll be glad to arrange a
dinner at the home of a friend of mine; nearly half his family has some sort of
cancer or another except for him.
37 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:51:03 PST
by Benson_Carter
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To: Timeout
Kaposi's carcinoma comes to mind.
38 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:53:05 PST
by Reelect President Dubya
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To: The Old Hoosier
"You make me sick. "
Then why are you reading this thread? There's a name for people who like
things that make them sick.
39 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:55:26 PST
by bayourod
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To: Diamond
Also solid organ transplant patients who are on immunosuppressive drugs for
the rest of their lives are at high risk for skin cancers. THey also tend to
behave more aggressively than the garden variety basal cell carcinoma.
40 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:01:06 PST
by SC DOC
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To: Solson
I fully agree. Look, no one despises Clinton personally and politically any
more than I do. My fondest dream would be to see that smirk wiped permanently
off his face and see him on his hands and knees with tears streaming down his
face literally losing control of his bodily functions with mortal terror and
begging not to go to jail. But when we wish the man's death from cancer, we are
no better than the vermin who laugh at President Reagan's Alzheimer's, and we
lose the moral high ground to call those people on it.
41 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:07:50 PST
by GB
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To: MOMinTN
Oh, so if the liberals do it, that makes it right?
42 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:08:46 PST
by The Old Hoosier
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To: uncbob
You may want to talk to your doctor about chemoprevention. There is
experimental evidence that the new Cox-2 inhibitors for treatment of arthritis
(Celebrex or Vioxx) reduce the incidence of skin cancers in experimental animal
models exposed to heavy doses of UV light. There is human data that shows they
can reduce the risk of pre-malignant colon polyps. These drugs are not FDA
approved for this purpose, but with all your outdoor activities I'd bet you
might have some arthritis. (if you catch my drift) The main drawback to these
drugs is expense.
43 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:09:58 PST
by SC DOC
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To: wny
Jesus loves everyone, except Bill Clinton, right?
44 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:10:49 PST
by The Old Hoosier
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To: Timeout
I suspected it was an old astroturf abrasion!
45 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:12:12 PST
by verity
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To: bayourod
I never said I like the thread, but I do like FR, and I like most FReepers.
And it pains me to see them being jackasses.
46 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:12:38 PST
by The Old Hoosier
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"I" come here to read the latest news and a bit of commentary
about it.
That being said, even the voices of the most extreme amoung have a right to
be heard! BUT, being joyful, boisterous, or in anyway happy about the REAL
PHYSICAL ILLNESSES of ANY man SHOULD be above us. WE accuse the democRATS /
Liberal press etc of exactly this kind of behaviour and we are APPALLED! Now
the tables have turned and what do we do??? THROW A PARTY!!
Come on, this is too low!
While I would never wish any good for Clinton, I WOULD NEVER wish him any
ill. Clinton is the lowest form of slim ever pumped from a bilge and should
face charges, both here and in the ever after, for EVERYTHING he has ever done!
I and my family will toast his leaving office, we will NOT toast his demise!
47 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:13:43 PST
by An.American.Expatriate
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To: SC DOC
No wonder the conservatives keep losing. The opinions on this thread show a
mean-spirited viewpoint that makes Al Sharpton look reasonable. If the
Christian-Conservative position is to wish cancer (or any other disease) on
their opponents, they deserve to be defeated.
48 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:15:28 PST
by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Timeout
While I am saddened that anyone can get skin cancer, I can't help thinking
of that old "Barcelona" song:
They say you got a carcinoma
a lesion on your back.
A basal cell-type carcinoma
which you'd rather lack.
Oh yeah you got a carcinoma
the operation was quite dull
Coulda been a big blastoma
Hidden in your skull
But it's just a carcinoma
a sort-of "Cancer Lite"
just a little carcinoma
keeps you in the spotlight.
49 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:18:12 PST
by theDentist
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To: Timeout
When I was 14 y.o, I remember my whole 8th grade class cheered when we heard
President Reagan was shot. I grew up Liberal, obviously, and they did a great
brain-washing act even back then.
I don't know if the point is "Happiness for others misfortune is
wrong" or "Hey, they'd be cheering if it were Bush with the Cancer on
his back". Take from it what you wish.
50 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:18:46 PST
by bigjoesaddle
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To: Timeout
clin-toon is a CANCER! Go GWB!
51 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:22:09 PST
by neat62
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To: Solson
"Can this thread disappear? While I really despise the man, I do not
wish for his death via cancer. Nor should any of us."
Agreed. Billy needs to go to prison.
52 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:22:28 PST
by allend
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To: Timeout
This is the worst thread I have seen on FR since the time someone posted a
threat against the president and I had to call the Secret Service.
53 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:22:59 PST
by Austim
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To: Timeout
This will elevate Clinton's victim status: "I stand before you today
(biting lip) as a cancer survivor."
54 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:25:26 PST
by I'mPeach
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To: The Old Hoosier
I never said it was OK. I was just comparing the two situations. I see your
point, but quite frankly, if he's sick, I don't care. Maybe I should, but I
don't. I could say that I care, but I'm not a liar. Sorry I flamed you. I've
only been posting here since August and haven't earned the right to do that.
55 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:26:45 PST
by MOMinTN
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To: Timeout
Guess what this means: Clinton will probably step down as President on
Thursday or Friday, and Gore will become acting president just long enough to
pardon Clinton, et al. Mark my words on it.
56 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:29:07 PST
by PetroniDE
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To: Austim
Maybe he can put some ice on it. That seems to be his solution to all sorts
of pathologies.
57 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:29:20 PST
by JohnYankeeCmpsr
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To: Timeout
Its not cancer, its AIDS.
58 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:32:07 PST
by LongsforReagan
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To: Diamond
Excellent post. Very educational. Also, the Hebrew people knew that skin diseases were the result of the tongue. When Clinton came out with his "demand" that scientist